ARE APOSTLES AND PROPHETS STILL RELEVANT TO THE CHURCH?


Here in Australia, approximately 1,100 Assemblies of God churches are members of the ‘Australian Christian Churches’ who have joined forces with the ‘World Assemblies of God Fellowship’ which has 67 million members worldwide and is the largest Pentecostal Fellowship in the world.
Among the majority of AoG churches worldwide the non-ordination of apostles and prophets still stands. A manifesto regarding the position of apostles and prophets in today’s Pentecostalism was read out to the General Presbytery of the Assemblies of God (International) August 6, 2001.

In brief the AoG say that Ephesians 4:12 is more a manifold ministry than a fivefold one. That is to say Ephesians 4:12 give to all saints the work of ministry, while 1 Corinthian 12:28-30 and Romans 12:6-8 provide aspects of ministry beyond the designations in Ephesians 4:11-12.


The worldwide AoG doctrinal position in relation to Ephesians 4:11-12 basically means that messengers of Old Testament prophets were more often “forth-telling” rather than “foretelling”. For example, Joel 2:28 forth- told of an even that would happen at Pentecost 33CE ; and the apostle Paul foretold it in Acts 2:16 when he said: “No, what you see was predicted long ago by the prophet Joel” (NLT).


John tells us in Revelations 19:10 that the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Hence, those who have the spirit of Christ can affirm, teach, or administer God’s prophetic message through a manifold of believers coined – ‘prophet-hood’. This includes those gifted with deep insight into revelation known as apostle-ship. 

Not so with apostolicism who teach that apostles, profits and prophetess are titles that have veto powers over a senior pastor. Regardless,  the Australian Christian Churches has implemented a policy called a ‘Certificate of fellowship’ which allows visiting NAR prophets and prophetess to preach: or should I say prophecy, among there eleven hundred affiliate members.
Its my opinion that the ACC are a front for the Word Wide Apostolic Movement pretending to be AoG .

My concern is that  apostolicism teach hands-on prophesy without  need for "tongues interpretation "and adhere to the doctrine of deliverance -just to name some of their obscure tenets. Read more  in my book "Tongues on Fire"

           “While we do not understand it to be necessary, some church bodies may in good faith and careful biblical definition choose to name certain leaders apostles.” Pg 10 Ph 2. Presbytery of the Assemblies of God on August 6, 2001.

Note: It’s from this statement  that  Brian Houston takes title of apostle as announced on Bobby Houston’s  twitter account February 2018 —without condemnation from AoG international.

Interestingly enough the NAR say: " if the AoG are to except  the tile of apostle  why not  a prophet or a  prophetess?

Clark Taylor founder of  the Australian Christian outreach Centres (COC )  claims title of Apostle yet denies title of prophet and prophetess. Confused?


Gender inequality in today’s Christian Church?

As you are aware, we have just finished celebrating international Woman Day —highlighting the importance of gender equality. To my point!

Just recently I visited a church whereby the minister announced for their men’s breakfast, a special visit by a Christian bike group known as the God squad. When I asked the pastor if I could bring a Christian sister, he gave excuses why that could not be possible even though he had been preaching on the body of Christ as having no gender.


May I remind all Christians that the bible tells us that GOD is no respecter of persons and upholds gender equality. This is more than I can say for the churches in Bribie Island who are joint participants in an archaic monthly ritual of a male only Christian gathering.

Church leaders please take heed: Your mind set is out of date with the Qld 1991 anti-discrimination laws. As far as I’m concerned, if it’s OK for boys to be included in to the girl guides and girls to be in the scouts then it’s OK for woman to participate in the men’s breakfast.


Religious institutions feel they are exempt from bigotry and discrimination by using bible scripture. But Romans 2:11 & Galatians 3:28 clearly shows that in this particular case that they are being hypocritical. Churches need to be in touch with social trends if they are to encourage new converts. Woman's Aglow and Men's breakfast are parse.





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